[SFD-discuss] Contents of SFD-discuss digest..."
Jaysel Noma Ramos
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Tue Sep 13 10:49:04 UTC 2011
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> 1. Re: JoinDiaspora and other SaaS alternatives (Pockey Lam)
> 2. Re: JoinDiaspora and other SaaS alternatives (Julian H. Stacey)
> 3. Re: New OpenDisc release for SFD (Fabi?n Rodr?guez)
> 4. Re: Using the Shapado Q&A for "post-SFD" suport
> (Frederic Muller - SFI)
> 5. Re: Using the Shapado Q&A for "post-SFD" suport
> (Frederic Muller - SFI)
> 6. Re: JoinDiaspora and other SaaS alternatives (Michael Dorrington)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2011 22:05:59 +0800
> From: Pockey Lam <pockey at softwarefreedomday.org>
> Subject: Re: [SFD-discuss] JoinDiaspora and other SaaS alternatives
> To: Fabi?n Rodr?guez <magicfab at member.fsf.org>
> Cc: Open discussions about SFD <sfd-discuss at sf-day.org>
> Message-ID: <4E6B6EC7.8010701 at softwarefreedomday.org>
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> Hi Fabrian,
>
> I would be more than happy to try out diaspora so, I went to
> joindiaspora.com and invite myself~ it works too!
>
> Pockey
>
> On 09/10/2011 07:13 PM, Fabi?n Rodr?guez wrote:
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> > Hi everyone
> >
> > If you are on Diaspora's main pod (at joindiaspora.com) please consider
> > adding me to your aspects -> magicfab at joindiaspora.com
> >
> > If you are not but would like to be, please email me offlist with your
> > preferred email address and I can send you an invite. To find out more
> > about Diaspora, see:
> > https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Diaspora
> >
> > I think in SFD's context it's important we anticipate questions about
> > using SaaS social networks, particularly Facebook and G+, and if we know
> > or have tried others such as Diaspora, it makes for an interesting
> > discussion on SFD, or even a viable alternative.
> >
> > I'd love to hear opinions on this, although my goal is only to provide
> > another tools for SaaS discussion on SFD should you come across such
> > questions. And interesting list of such alternatives for other services
> > can be seen here, don't hesitate to augment/modify it:
> > http://wiki.autonomo.us/Wish_list
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Fabian Rodriguez
> > Montral, QC, Canada
> > http://libreplanet.org/wiki/User:MagicFab
> > ~
> > http://wiki.softwarefreedomday.org/2011/Canada/Montreal
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> Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2011 17:54:14 +0200
> From: "Julian H. Stacey" <jhs at berklix.com>
> Subject: Re: [SFD-discuss] JoinDiaspora and other SaaS alternatives
> To: Open discussions about SFD <sfd-discuss at sf-day.org>
> Message-ID: <201109101554.p8AFsEHC016119 at fire.js.berklix.net>
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> > > another tools for SaaS discussion on SFD should you come across such
>
> No idea what SaaS was. I looked it up.
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SaaS
> "Software as a service"
> Just another marketing buzzword:
> "The concept of SaaS has been popularized by Salesforce.com,
> which coined the term "The End of Software" to differentiate
> its (then new) software-as-a-service approach ....
> Yawn !
> Amusing bit:
> "Data escrow .... 85 percent of the participants wanted to
> take a copy of their SaaS data. A third of these participants
> wanted a copy on a daily basis."
>
> People askng about SAAS & clouds could be told:
> Remote data & service clouds can evaporate.
> A free app. or server one installs localy from eg an SFD
> CDROM/DVD, is an app. & data a remote admin on a remote
> SAAS server + cloud can't break for you by unexpected
> upgrade, service removal, bankruptcy, net outage, or deciding
> to go commercial & charge for next week.
>
> SAAS & clouds are not the direction UK government is going
> eg tax office & companies house (co. reg. authority) are
> pushing processing on to applicants PCs (Processing of PDF
> v. 1.7 editable forms for tax returns by Adobe Reader etc),
> Central servers are just for upload on completion, Not
> remote SAAS processing.
>
> Cheers,
> Julian
> --
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> Message: 3
> Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2011 11:54:43 -0400
> From: Fabi?n Rodr?guez <magicfab at member.fsf.org>
> Subject: Re: [SFD-discuss] New OpenDisc release for SFD
> To: sfd-discuss at sf-day.org
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> On 09/09/2011 10:00 AM, Marcelo Araldi wrote:
> > I vote for LibreOffice :)
> >
> > *Marcelo Araldi me encontre na web!
> > <http://about.me/marceloaraldi>** *
> >
> >
> >
> > 2011/9/9 Ji?? Navr?til <jiri at navratil.cz <mailto:jiri at navratil.cz>>
> >
> > Phil,
> >
> > Could you let me know, which non-free games I have to remove from
> > SFD2011OpenDisc.iso ? (preferable filenames on DVD)
> >
> > Fred,
> >
> > shall I remove openoffice and add libreoffice from OpenDisc.11.09.iso
> > ?
> >
>
> This made me think, if anyone wants to distribute a separate LibreOffice
> DVD here is how I put together a local version for Quebec:
>
> http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/User:MagicFab/LibODVD
>
> Cheers,
>
> Fabian Rodriguez
> Montral, QC, Canada
> http://libreplanet.org/wiki/User:MagicFab
> ~
> http://wiki.softwarefreedomday.org/2011/Canada/Montreal
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> Message: 4
> Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2011 00:20:01 +0800
> From: Frederic Muller - SFI <fred at softwarefreedomday.org>
> Subject: Re: [SFD-discuss] Using the Shapado Q&A for "post-SFD" suport
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> On 09/10/2011 07:08 PM, Fabi?n Rodr?guez wrote:
> > Hi everyone
> >
> > As many of you, ** after Sept. 17 ** I anticipate the questions
> > and requests for help from people that will discover free software
> > or will become more curious about it with this event.
>
> I think that's a great point and we should in fact keep a section for
> visitors ending up on sfd website and looking for more information
> between each celebration.
> >
> > I'd like to propose we show participants how to use Shapado FLOSS,
> > a Q&A site where questions can be asked in most any language, while
> > providing a reputation/score system for questions and answers:
> > http://floss.shapado.com/
> >
> > This is powered by Shapado, and hasn't seen much exposure/use yet,
> > but works well. Other FLOSS projects have adopted the same engine,
> > creating microsites which share authentication and resources:
> > http://ask.debian.net/ (official) http://owncloud.shapado.com/
> > (official) http://libreoffice.shapado.com/ (unofficial)
> > http://ubuntu.shapado.com/ (unofficial)
>
> Looks very much like a forum discussion to me (with voting, though
> voting seems to only be handled as a tag and not to push stuff up by
> default). Q&A section should on the contrary not be a discussion but a
> carefully planned answer list to what people may or may not wonder
> about. Anything else should then be asked through our normal
> communication channels. As I have been saying in the past I don't
> think mailing lists (or GMANE) are well suited for people wanting to
> ask a one time question (one may argue that Google probably is... ;-)
> ) or for people who simply do not like mailing lists.
>
> > ..
> >
> > And the list goes on.
> >
> > For general FLOSS questions, including Mac/Windows related ones, I
> > find this may be an excellent way to provide post-SFD support and
> > assistance to the people we will meet. It provides several
> > advantages over forums and newsgroups, while presenting a
> > multilingual web interface that is easier to use and builds
> > FAQ-like knowledge over time.
> >
> > Shapado has an IRC channel if anyone here has questions (#shapado
> > on Freenode) and of course dogfoods its own Q&A at Shapado.com. If
> > anyone wants to help with the admin/graphic design or moderation of
> > the FLOSS microsite, please come by IRC and ask around. I have no
> > other connection with the project than being an avid user and
> > moderator / creator of some of the links mentioned above.
> >
> > Let me know what you think, I will be adding a sheet of "essential
> > FLOSS local links" to our promo material and it will include
> > http://floss.shapado.com/.
>
> Likewise I am not a big fan of hosting my data in someone else home
> and should we run something similar on SFD servers that will have to
> go through integration with existing services as much as possible, and
> familiarity from the admins.
>
> So no Shapado right now obviously, but working out a nice Q&A section
> will be added on the todos.
>
> Thanks a lot.
>
> Fred
>
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Fabian Rodriguez Montral, QC, Canada
> > http://libreplanet.org/wiki/User:MagicFab ~
> > http://wiki.softwarefreedomday.org/2011/Canada/Montreal
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________ SFD-discuss mailing
> > list SFD-discuss at sf-day.org
> > http://mail.sf-day.org/lists/listinfo/sfd-discuss
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> Message: 5
> Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2011 00:24:33 +0800
> From: Frederic Muller - SFI <fred at softwarefreedomday.org>
> Subject: Re: [SFD-discuss] Using the Shapado Q&A for "post-SFD" suport
> To: sfd-discuss at sf-day.org
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> On 09/10/2011 07:08 PM, Fabi?n Rodr?guez wrote:
> > Hi everyone
> >
> > As many of you, ** after Sept. 17 ** I anticipate the questions and
> > requests for help from people that will discover free software or
> > will become more curious about it with this event.
>
> I think that's a great point and we should definitely keep a section for
> visitors ending up on sfd website and looking for more information
> between each celebration (or as a direct follow up of SFD).
> >
> > I'd like to propose we show participants how to use Shapado FLOSS,
> > a Q&A site where questions can be asked in most any language,
> > while providing a reputation/score system for questions and
> > answers: http://floss.shapado.com/
> >
> > This is powered by Shapado, and hasn't seen much exposure/use yet,
> > but works well. Other FLOSS projects have adopted the same engine,
> > creating microsites which share authentication and resources:
> > http://ask.debian.net/ (official) http://owncloud.shapado.com/
> > (official) http://libreoffice.shapado.com/ (unofficial)
> > http://ubuntu.shapado.com/ (unofficial)
>
> Looks very much like a discussion forum to me (with voting, though
> voting seems to only be handled as a tag and not to push stuff up by
> default).
>
> A Q&A section should on the contrary not be a discussion area but a
> carefully planned answer list to what people may or may not be thinking
> about. Any missing question should then be asked through our normal
> communication channels. As I have been saying in the past I don't
> think mailing lists (or GMANE) are well suited for people wanting to
> ask a one time question (one may argue that Google probably is... ;-)
> ) or for people who simply do not like mailing lists.
>
> > ..
> >
> > And the list goes on.
> >
> > For general FLOSS questions, including Mac/Windows related ones, I
> > find this may be an excellent way to provide post-SFD support and
> > assistance to the people we will meet. It provides several
> > advantages over forums and newsgroups, while presenting a
> > multilingual web interface that is easier to use and builds
> > FAQ-like knowledge over time.
> >
> > Shapado has an IRC channel if anyone here has questions (#shapado
> > on Freenode) and of course dogfoods its own Q&A at Shapado.com. If
> > anyone wants to help with the admin/graphic design or moderation
> > of the FLOSS microsite, please come by IRC and ask around. I have
> > no other connection with the project than being an avid user and
> > moderator / creator of some of the links mentioned above.
> >
> > Let me know what you think, I will be adding a sheet of "essential
> > FLOSS local links" to our promo material and it will include
> > http://floss.shapado.com/.
>
> Likewise I am not a big fan of hosting my data in someone else home
> and should we run something similar on SFD servers that will have to
> go through integration with existing services as much as possible, and
> familiarity from the admins.
>
> So no Shapado right now obviously, but working out a nice Q&A section
> will be added on the todos.
>
> Thanks a lot.
>
> Fred
>
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Fabian Rodriguez Montral, QC, Canada
> > http://libreplanet.org/wiki/User:MagicFab ~
> > http://wiki.softwarefreedomday.org/2011/Canada/Montreal
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________ SFD-discuss
> > mailing list SFD-discuss at sf-day.org
> > http://mail.sf-day.org/lists/listinfo/sfd-discuss
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> Message: 6
> Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2011 10:09:14 +0100
> From: Michael Dorrington <michael.dorrington at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [SFD-discuss] JoinDiaspora and other SaaS alternatives
> To: sfd-discuss at sf-day.org
> Message-ID: <4E6C7ABA.1000201 at gmail.com>
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> On 10/09/11 12:13, Fabi?n Rodr?guez wrote:
> > Hi everyone
> >
> > If you are on Diaspora's main pod (at joindiaspora.com) please consider
> > adding me to your aspects -> magicfab at joindiaspora.com
> >
> > If you are not but would like to be, please email me offlist with your
> > preferred email address and I can send you an invite. To find out more
> > about Diaspora, see:
> > https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Diaspora
>
> This refers to the software (but there isn't much on it):
> https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Diaspora_%28software%29
>
> (At least :) Two things concern me about Diaspora:
>
> 1. The ability of the project to write secure code. Writing secure code
> is essential for a project of this kind.
>
> http://www.kalzumeus.com/2010/09/22/security-lessons-learned-from-the-diaspora-launch/
>
> 2. The contributor agreement.
> http://www.vedetta.com/a-few-notes-on-diaspora-the-diaspora-verdict
> The agreement itself is on Google Docs and requires a login to view it.
> FaiF?
>
> Mike.
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> sir..
>
> can we have your message for our event?
>
> just a few sentence of our message including the name of our school..
>
> because our panel of reactors demand that we should have the message from
> you to satisfy all the sponsors we have?
>
> sir pls??
>
> can we?
>
>
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